Author Topic: Polish Pierogi or Russian Pierogi recipes--are there differences?  (Read 3039 times)

CinnamonBear

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Are Polish-style pierogi and Russian-style pierogi recipes virtually the same?

I ask this because I've eaten pierogi dishes in Russian restaurants, and these are a bit different from the frozen, freezer case variety of pierogi you find in the US grocery stores.

The Russian ones I've had in various restaurants were always filled with meat. Is there a difference between pierogi in Poland or in Russia?



claudine

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I'm not a food expert, but in Poland we call 'pierogi ruskie' pierogi with cooked potatoes and cheese. And when I say just 'pierogi', I mean pierogi with meat or fruits. I've never heard anybody saying 'polish pierogi'.

Jessi

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See, and I know 'perogies' to mean potato-based ones. My ex-boyfriend's family was all Ukrainian/Polish and his mom's recipes are what I had always used. There was no specification that they were potato-filled....that's just what was expected. Even the dough had potatoes in it.

I have since had ones with other fillings and those would've been called "meat perogies" or something to specify. It's interesting how various terms and labels get mixed up and changed when they're passed on or used in different areas.

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Hmmm, interesting:

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There is a traditional Russian dish called "pirogí" (пироги), which sounds similar to Polish "pierogi" but is a different dish. The Russian variant of Polish pierogi or Ukrainian varenyky is varéniki (вареники) or pelʹméni (пельмени). They are most often filled with meat, rice and meat, potatoes with mushrooms, cheese, cabbage, meat, berries. They can be topped with fried onions and bacon, or butter, and served with sour cream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi

That makes sense. And I would refer to meat-filled dumplings as pelmeni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelmeni), even if they were the same size or shape as perogies, so maybe that's where the distinction on my end is coming from.

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I always think of Polish ones as being meet filled and Russian ones as being filled with potatoes and cheese. That is based on eating them in the U.S. I don't know if that is just a naming system.

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Is there such a thing as Russian pierogis?

I know of Russian piroshki, which are similar to pierogis, but at the same time completely different - they use a yeast dough which rises, and then they are deep fried. They usually have a meat filling. They are absolutely to die for, if you ever have a chance to try them.  I  have never seen them sold anywhere and have only had them at a Russian friend's house.

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My understanding is that Pierogi are essentially made the same way [recipe wise] except for filling and preparation method. They can be boiled, pan fried or [disgustingly] deep fried. Who deep fries pierogi?!

Filling changes seasonally too - I know I get excited around strawberry season because it means strawberry pierogi with sweetened sour cream. Mmm.

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What kind of sweetened sour cream, if you don't mind my asking? I use agave nectar to sweetened my sour cream but with this I'm not sure if I wouldn't just use a traditional fruit syrup. Maybe something to play against the strawberries. Ooo, now I'm thinking a dab of mint jelly.

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Concept is the same be it Russian, Italian or China. A difference lays in detail.
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hellonamesdana

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Does anybody have a really good recipe to make homemade pierogis? I'd love to make some from scratch instead of just buying Mrs. T's, which are delicious but I want to be able to make my own because I love cooking stuff like that! I'd love to be able to stuff them with some interesting combinations of stuff too, like cheddar cheese ones or some with spinach inside or something like that.

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Does anybody have a really good recipe to make homemade pierogis?

http://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/polish-pierogi

this one looks about right

hellonamesdana

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Thanks for the recipe! I'll be sure to try them out and see how they come out!

Jessi

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Does anybody have a really good recipe to make homemade pierogis? I'd love to make some from scratch instead of just buying Mrs. T's, which are delicious but I want to be able to make my own because I love cooking stuff like that! I'd love to be able to stuff them with some interesting combinations of stuff too, like cheddar cheese ones or some with spinach inside or something like that.

There are lots of recipes out there and I haven't had the same one twice yet, so I'm not going to link to any.

What I WILL do, however, is recommend finding a good "maker"/mold. I highly recommnend this variety:


Piergoi Maker

You just lay a sheet of dough down, drop in some filling on each spot, put on another layer of dough....and then roll with a rolling pin across the top. This seals each pocket and drops perfect pierogies out the bottom, ready for boiling and frying.

This is what my Ukrainian ex-boyfriend used to use and I haven't tried anything that's any better yet (even those little individual ones that seem so easy....they take forever!)

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Jessi, I don't think it will work. I tried something similar but they don't "glue" the edges well. You need to do them individually or they will open when cooking.

Jessi

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Jessi, I don't think it will work. I tried something similar but they don't "glue" the edges well. You need to do them individually or they will open when cooking.

I have used it repeatedly and it works just fine. The "sealing" or rather, the lack therefore, tends to do more with the texture/consistency of the dough. If it's not quite wet enough, then they won't press together correctly. You can also dab or brush a bit of water between each of the areas to help with this process, but it's not usually necessary for me.